Why We Get Fat: And What to Do About It

Author: Gary Taubes
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by hitssquad   2021-12-10

Details were requested and you dodged the request. Duly noted.

There's no such thing as "obesity-level".

Read the sources. If cardio didn't cause metabolism to drop, our otherwise ancestors would have died before reproducing and we wouldn't be here to discuss it.

"Weight loss" is fastest with 24-hour bed rest: https://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Get-Fat-About/dp/0307474259/

by TheFactedOne   2021-12-10

>A healthy relationship with food

The only thing that worked for me, was, wait for it, keto. Before keto, I was a food mess. After keto, I still wonder why I used to feel that way.

For books, there are a ton of them. One of my favorites is https://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Get-Fat-About/dp/0307474259/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=keto+taubs&qid=1565282576&s=gateway&sr=8-1

by XenoDrake   2021-12-10

Or you can read these books




All three explain The Big Fat Lie. Seeing as how you are all hung up on youtube being an invalid source. Tell me why all three books have chapters about how CICO are not the only story about weight loss? Get back to me when you read them.

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by giardini   2021-07-04
I recently quit taking statins. My decision was motivated by reading two books:

"Why We Get Fat" by Gary Taubes



"The Big Fat Surprise" by Nina Teicholz


Finding that statins would lengthen my lifespan by at most ~30 days or less really chapped my ass (i.e.,irritated me), given that so much time and effort went into prescribing/ordering/buying/taking/monitoring statins on a regular schedule, along with their attendant blood tests (Total cholesterol, LDL, HDL, triglycerides et al) and time spent listening to my fear-mongering physician:


When I faced my doctor down about this he fell back to saying that "you increase your probability of a heart attack by 17%". He neglected to say how significant it was that, in the last year alone, I had lost 15 pounds, increased my exercise level, now slept better and had improved my diet significantly. He went through the motions but I stood firm. In desperation he threw out "But high blood pressure is strongly correlated with increasing age and you can't turn the clock back!" I countered that my blood pressure is better than it's ever been and that I intend to reduce it further. Then I told him that the cholesterol hypothesis is dead [ed. the cholesterol hypothesis is the idea that cardiovascular disease is caused by high levels of cholesterol in the blood stream]:


With that, he seemed dumbfounded and finally stopped selling me statins.

We've fallen back to a previous era where physicians in the USA are useless except for trauma intervention and as gatekeepers for antibiotics (and other newer drugs). If the USA would allow pharmacists to prescribe (as is done in Europe) we could save trillions of dollars. But physicians' prestige and power would be reduced to a shadow of what they are today. Time to put them back in their proper place.

Covid-19's revelations of the flawed advice of "experts" has been enlightening. Every expert source has failed in big ways: epidemiology is a laughing stock, the FDA, WHO and CDC have dropped the ball repeatedly, given flawed advice, reversed guidelines and in general, established a baseline of SNAFU FUBAR:


But my physician is no better: he's been selling me bullshit for decades.

And now this article. Grrr! Good thing my blood pressure is under control!

by kate_does_keto   2019-07-21

I wouldn't. Many, many doctors, dietitians and nutritionists recommend not doing keto due to years of misinformation and flat out wrong "facts", sponsored by the sugar industry and Big Agriculture.

Take your co-pay and buy the books below instead. For yourself. You don't need to convince anyone that your choices are OK.



Edited to add: Here are my lipid results on Keto. I've lost 40lbs too.

Lipids KETO

Read all of the great success stories on weight and other issues that are helped by Keto. They're all here, just search on things like diabetic, GERD, IBS, depression, lupus.... many stories of greatly improved or cured.

by hitssquad   2019-07-21

> Texas is godly for cheap land, cheap labor, cheap food, cheap gas. Of course, everyone's a fat ass as a result

Maybe not: https://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Get-Fat-About/dp/0307474259

by DenisM   2018-11-10
My pet theory is "refined sugar and other simple carbs'.

Simple carbs spike up blood sugar through the roof, the body responds by dumping insulin, the insulin causes blood sugar to be sequestered in fat and muscle cells (as intended), but if the dump is large it may overshoot and the blood sugar falls through the floor. Aka "sugar crash". The crash will of course make you crave food again, the same simple carb kind. Vicious cycle.

This sort of see-saw messes you up real bad. So I was told [1]

[1] https://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Get-Fat-About/dp/0307474259

by soloadventurer   2017-08-20
I'm always very fascinated by people's rationale and I enjoy reading these threads. Thank you for posting. My own journey took me in the opposite direction: I eat nothing but meat and other animal-derived products such as cheese and eggs (but not milk). I have made this decision after reading The Fat of the Land by Vilhjalmur Stefansson [1] and Why We Get Fat by Gary Taubes [2]. I consciously decided the most important dietary principle, for me, is to never trigger a strong insulin response. I have been zero carb (and therefore zero fiber) for about a year now.

I have since then thrown in intermittent fasting as well. I fast 22 hours a day, work out at the end of the day, and then go home and eat 1kg of steak/lamb. I think intermittent fasting is worth adding to any diet, vegan or otherwise.

[1] Book was printed in 1956, so copyright may have expired. There's PDFs online. Here's a link to Stefansson's Wikipedia entry: https://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Get-Fat-About/dp/0307474259

by Jallal   2017-08-20
Actually, this is the main subject of 'Why We Get Fat: And What to Do About It' (https://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Get-Fat-About/dp/0307474259) and the book refers to several scientific studies to support its claim.
by jseliger   2017-08-19
See Taubes, Why We Get Fat: And What to Do About It ()
by henrik_w   2017-08-19
I thought the book "Why We Get Fat" by Gary Taubes was a pretty interesting read in the sugar vs fat debate.


by bollockitis   2017-08-19
If you haven't read either of Taubes's books, please do. I highly recommend Why We Get Fat[1]. It's a spectacular piece of scientific journalism. If that's too much for you, try one of his talks on the same topic[2].

When I first encountered the idea that we do not get fat from eating too much and that calories weren't responsible, I thought it ludicrous—the body can't disobey the laws of physics! Thermodynamics! But after seriously thinking about the idea, I realized Taubes was providing a far more complete understanding of metabolism. The human body doesn't run on calories, it runs on food. Yes, we can easily learn the caloric content of food, but that's largely irrelevant. What's important is how food affects the body, not its raw energy content. I see this misconception time and time again, especially among smart people who like to reduce the human body to merely a physical machine, often ignoring the whole biology thing.

I think the hormone theory of obesity is correct and I think these studies will prove it. But even if they show otherwise, this type of research is long overdue and we all stand to benefit from the results.


[2]: http://youtu.be/ywRV3GH5io0

by nixfu   2017-08-19

Gary Taubes in his books like Good Calories, Bad Calories(very sciencey and extremely researched and aimed towards doctors) and Why We Get Fat(same info more approachable) does a good job of explaining the interactions in the lipid system and debunking this idea or calories in = calories out, particularly in regard to body fat.

There is a much more complex system in regard to testosterone, triglycerides, and insulin than this simple idea follows.



>Building upon his critical work in Good Calories, Bad Calories and presenting fresh evidence for his claim, Gary Taubes revisits the urgent question of what’s making us fat—and how we can change. > >He reveals the bad nutritional science of the last century—none more damaging or misguided than the “calories-in, calories-out” model of why we get fat—and the good science that has been ignored. He also answers the most persistent questions: Why are some people thin and others fat? What roles do exercise and genetics play in our weight? What foods should we eat, and what foods should we avoid? Persuasive, straightforward, and practical, Why We Get Fat is an essential guide to nutrition and weight management.

by calwaterops   2017-08-19

You got it. If more people realized what you just discussed, we would flip this whole thing around. It's the sugar and the simple carbs that has brought us here. The demonization of fat. If we replaced sugar and simple carbs, with fats and protein we would literally solve this without having to struggle so much. My family and I have lost about 25% of our body fat doing just that. What people don't realize is how long fat keeps you satiated and you're no longer using will power to not eat, you simply don't have cravings to overcome. It also isn't as simple as calories in calories out. One example is protein calories. 1/3 of calories from protein are used in metabolizing them...there is much more science to it,the reason it isn't what we're being taught is because there is big money lost if we demonize sugar the way we have tobacco, but that's what we need... Anyway there's obviously much more to it.. If you'd like to learn more check out this book that explains it with science and research in a simple to follow way. https://toptalkedbooks.com/amzn/0307474259