Black Rednecks and White Liberals

Category: Social Sciences
Author: Thomas Sowell
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by bluescape   2019-08-24

You're severely moving the goal posts.

>most Black and Hispanic people in the US were brought here / came here in extreme poverty and have been kept that way for centuries, whereas most immigrants (especially more recent ones) from Asia come from wealthy families who are actually able to make the move here

Your statement doesn't talk about police policy, nor do you specifically mention post WWII. That's why the Irish were brought up to begin with. Your premise based on the words you chose, was that black/hispanic people don't have the same opportunities because of poverty and racial discrimination. These are two things which were faced by other groups as well. Groups that now flourish.

Might want to check out Black Rednecks and White Liberals

by u02br18   2019-08-24

https://www.cato.org/blog/new-study-finds-more-evidence-poverty-traps-welfare-system http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8707652.stm https://fee.org/articles/the-welfare-trap-labyrinth-of-programs-punishes-work/ https://nationalcenter.org/project21/2014/01/08/lbjs-war-on-poverty-hurt-black-americans/ https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/lbj-vs-the-nuclear-family/

Also Thomas Sowell's terrific essay "Black Rednecks and White Liberals" https://www.amazon.com/Black-Rednecks-Liberals-Thomas-Sowell/dp/1594031436

by iMalinowski   2019-08-24

Consider looking into the book by Thomas Sowell on the matter.

by Kyrra   2019-07-21

Just tell them to go read https://www.amazon.com/Black-Rednecks-Liberals-Thomas-Sowell/dp/1594031436 to show them that way of talking came from northern England hillbillies. (Along with most of the "black culture" that seems cherished today.)

by ericdimwit   2019-07-21

https://www.amazon.com/Black-Rednecks-Liberals-Thomas-Sowell/dp/1594031436

read that, and then never worry about the rest of the world...they hated us under bush, they hated us under obama, they hate us under trump....the US has done nothing as bad as: The Germans, The British, The French, The Spanish, The gooses, The Russians, The Chinese, Continental Africa....goes on and on...Indian caste system...the difference is now that they know trump won't be impeached, they are afraid of us again.

by TecnoPope   2019-07-21

This is a strange understanding of history imo. We should strive to be better historians. The word slave literally comes from the word slav. White people have also been enslaved and oppressed since the beginning of time as well. Even as recently as the 19th century white people were being enslaved during the barbary wars. If you want to look at the Arab slave trade it dwarfs that of the western / american slave trade and is still going on today. If the logic is that white people have been oppressing people of color more than people of color oppressing each other its just simply not true. Historically european and american whites were actually involved in the chantal / race based slave trade for the least amount of time than other groups and white puritans were the reason slavery started to become abolished. /u/Kayddps check out Black Rednecks & White Liberals by Thomas Sowell (A black economist and historian). It will blow your mind.

by yaku9   2019-07-21

No. Africans were not innocent in the slave trade. West Africa had large scale slave trading before, during and after the white man arrived. It was Africans who enslaved their fellow Africans, selling some of them to Europeans or Arabs, and keeping others for themselves. Even at the peak of the Atlantic slave trade, Africans retained more slaves for themselves than they sent to the Western Hemisphere.

Source: Thomas Sowell - https://www.amazon.com/Black-Rednecks-Liberals-Thomas-Sowell/dp/1594031436

by yaku9   2019-07-21

> Plenty of countries had slaves and plenty eliminated slavery without causing anywhere near as much crazy social division as in the US

Slavery only ended because of one nation. Great Britain. They waged a world wide war on slavery enlisting/forcing other nations to comply.

One possile reason for the issues in the US could be that the slave population was distinguishable by race, and they stayed living in the host country. In every country where you had a minority group you had opression.

Source: Thomas Sowell - https://www.amazon.com/Black-Rednecks-Liberals-Thomas-Sowell/dp/1594031436

by stcredzero   2018-01-12
US mainstream left were lead by a black President who went to Harvard Law and Columbia

I voted for Obama. However, in retrospect, he was part of the shift of the American left into an authoritarian version. Those collegiate "progressive" protesters who say, "F your free speech" are part of this unfortunate shift.

which toxic culture are they supposedly glorifying?

Urban thug culture.

https://www.amazon.com/Black-Rednecks-Liberals-Thomas-Sowell...

There is a genteel African American culture. I've known people from that thread of American culture. It valued learning, rationality, responsibility, and manners. Also, not all Black Americans are too crazy about Obama's legacy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phPXTWJhnYM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6IJV_0p64s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKAaOzeIbwE