Torn: Rescuing the Gospel from the Gays-vs.-Christians Debate

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Author: Justin Lee
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by themsc190   2021-12-10

As others have recommended, if you want to explore and better understand the belief that being gay isn’t a sin, then I also recommend Torn by Justin Lee or God and the Gay Christian by Matthew Vines.

by byzedw   2021-12-10

There's a few, but three that I'd read are:

https://www.amazon.com/Torn-Rescuing-Gospel-Gays-vs-Christians-Debate/dp/1455514306/

https://www.amazon.com/UnClobber-Rethinking-Misuse-Bible-Homosexuality/dp/066426221X/

and http://www.godandthegaychristian.com/

by notahitandrun   2017-08-19

Maybe this can help. Christian resources to deal with your really Christian parents...

{Movie}

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QImNx1JA3BI - Documentary on Being Gay and Christian

{Videos}

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezQjNJUSraY - Matthew Vine Breaks Down Anti-Gay Verses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8ZgSHK6tdA - Matthew Vine on His Book God and the Gay Christian

http://new.livestream.com/GCNconf - Speakers Keynotes from GCN Conference 1,500 Attendees

https://www.youtube.com/user/GayChristianNetwork - Videos why its ok to be gay and christian

{Books}

https://toptalkedbooks.com/amzn/1455514306

https://toptalkedbooks.com/amzn/B00F1W0RD2

https://toptalkedbooks.com/amzn/0802868630

{Forum / Message Board}

http://www.gaychristian.net

{Find a Gay Affirming Church}

http://www.gaychurch.org

by notahitandrun   2017-08-19

I don't think " so many" gay people are becoming Christians when most of the posts on this subject are those rejecting any form of religion; maybe a skew of ask gay bros. Many gay men were hurt by the church so they reject organized religion. God did not put anyone to death, man has, please study up on the Bible. If you are referring to Soddom and Gomorrah God did not destroy the city because it was gay, but because it was wicked (read the books below). If you are referring to the Muslim "some" have put Christians and gays to death. If you really wish to study up on what the Bible say on Christianity I pasted some links below, Matthew Vines is Good and Dr. Brownson is very deep on the subject. Christians are not the majority, they are often the minority. Lots of gay mens have questions about religion because we grew up in religious homes, we have to figure out where we fit in to a world and religious dogma that is so hostile to LGBT. "Some" churches use it as fire and brimstone instead of caring who has divorced, eaten red meat, worn mixed fabrics, etc... My point is they use it as a issue and it really isn't a issue unless they are going to go off on themselves for behaviors that are in the verses as well. To use your analogy why would gays join something that would harm them, ... why would people drive they can be killed, fly in a plane..., why are their gay "extremist" Muslims when they are so hostile to LGBT. There is good and there is bad and you have to weigh the choices how that situation is healthy for you, everything has risk. Even being part of the gay community there are some that are mean, some that are nice, some that are clones others who are outsiders. It is the people who hurt gays not "God" and that is a cognitive distortion to think "all" religion and "all" Christians are like that. There are many Christians who love gay people. God gives free choice, man is the one who harms others, kills, steals, hurts, makes war. Judgement day with God is about a personal relationship with Christ not "being gay."

{Documentary}_______________________________________________

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QImNx1JA3BI - Documentary on Being Gay and Christian (experiences)

{Deep Dive into Bible Verses - Theology}__________________________

Matthew Vine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezQjNJUSraY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8ZgSHK6tdA

Dr. James Brownson (Deep Dive Theology)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1f0KD-B0Z8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKOTNneoOpU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kONByDAXko

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt-a0BiAEVs

{Videos}_____________________________________________________

http://new.livestream.com/GCNconf - Speakers Keynotes from Gay Christian Network Conference 1,500 Attendees

https://www.youtube.com/user/GayChristianNetwork - Videos why its ok to be gay and christian

{Books}_____________________________________________________

https://toptalkedbooks.com/amzn/1455514306 - Justin Lee (biography about being gay and christian)

https://toptalkedbooks.com/amzn/B00F1W0RD2 - Matthew Vines

https://toptalkedbooks.com/amzn/0802868630 - Dr. James Brownson (deep dive theology)

{Forum / Gay Christian Message Board}_______________________________

http://www.gaychristian.net

{Find a Gay Affirming Church}___________________________________

http://www.gaychurch.org

by notahitandrun   2017-08-19

I am a Christian as well. Take a look at these resources. Hopefully they can help. Maybe you can use the information to come to them in love.

{Movie}

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QImNx1JA3BI - Documentary on Being Gay and Christian

{Videos}

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezQjNJUSraY - Matthew Vine Breaks Down Anti-Gay Verses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8ZgSHK6tdA - Matthew Vine on His Book God and the Gay Christian

http://new.livestream.com/GCNconf - Speakers Keynotes from GCN Conference 1,500 Attendees

https://www.youtube.com/user/GayChristianNetwork - Videos why its ok to be gay and christian

{Books}

https://toptalkedbooks.com/amzn/1455514306

https://toptalkedbooks.com/amzn/B00F1W0RD2

https://toptalkedbooks.com/amzn/0802868630

{Forum / Message Board}

http://www.gaychristian.net

{Find a Gay Affirming Church}

http://www.gaychurch.org