Complex PTSD: From Surviving to Thriving: A GUIDE AND MAP FOR RECOVERING FROM CHILDHOOD TRAUMA

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Author: Pete Walker
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by RainbowCombatBoots   2019-11-17

Oh hey Peter Walker! For those that don't know this is a direct quote from CPTSD: Surviving to Thriving. If you'd like to learn more about freeze types and other symptoms, situations, and obstacles facing people with CPTSD I cannot recommend the book enough.

Link to amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Complex-PTSD-Surviving-RECOVERING-CHILDHOOD/dp/1492871842

by xXspeak_upXx   2019-11-17

I know this both personally and professionally. I've had PTSD symptoms since I was about 13 years old from an emotionally abusive and neglectful, toxic home environment. I'm in my early 30s now. I have been given the same responses and more. What's been really validating aside from my own therapy is this book: Complex PTSD: From Surviving to Thriving: A Guide and Map for Recovering from Childhood Trauma https://www.amazon.com/dp/1492871842/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_qL.bDbK0WS0P2

I highly highly recommend it.

by HazyDreamLikeState   2019-11-17

I'd recommend this book as it goes into depth about different trauma types and PDs: https://www.amazon.com/Complex-PTSD-Surviving-RECOVERING-CHILDHOOD/dp/1492871842

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TLDR version: "The flight-freeze type is the least relational and most schizoid hybrid. He prefers the safety of do-it-yourself isolationism. Sometimes this type may also be misdiagnosed as Asperger's Syndrome. The flight-freeze type avoids potential relationship retraumatization with an obsessive-compulsive/dissociative "two-step". Step one is working to complete exhaustion. Step two is collapsing into extreme "veging out", and waiting until his energy reaccumulates to relaunch into step one."

Flight types develop into OCD. It says "they are obsessively and compulsively driven by the unconscious belief that perfection will make them safe and loveable. They rush to achieve. They rush as much in thought [obsession] as they do in action [compulsion]."

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Just mentioning it as it seemed relevant to your question.

by RainbowCombatBoots   2019-11-17

Walking up in a flashback is a normal symptom of CPTSD.

You can read about it in Pete Walker's book available for purchase here: https://www.amazon.com/Complex-PTSD-Surviving-RECOVERING-CHILDHOOD/dp/1492871842

by user748294226   2019-11-17

This book described flash backs like that in great depth. Highly recommended.

https://www.amazon.com/Complex-PTSD-Surviving-RECOVERING-CHILDHOOD/dp/1492871842

by reccedog   2019-11-17

Look into inner child healing as well as C-PTSD. I think learning about C-PTSD will help you understand what is going on internally that is causing your anxiety and fear. A really good book about this is C-PTSD from Surviving to Thriving by Pete Walker.

Also, here is an inner child healing technique. While the exercise says to think of yourself like you are 4 or 5, you can apply it to your 12 year old self. You are essentially going back in your imagination to the Trauma and supporting yourself through it with Unconditional Love. This changes the emotions you experience when the traumatic event is triggered from fear based to supported and loved. It really is life changing.

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Inner Child Healing:

Start by imagining yourself as you were when you were 4 or 5 years old. Use a photo initially if it is necessary. Then as your adult self imagine checking in with that inner child that you have identified. Go to them. I think you will see that your suffering is at root their suffering. Give them unconditional love. Hug them, talk to them. Sit with them. Soothe them. Tell them that now that you've found them you will strive hard to always be there for them. That you're inseparable. Develop a deep relationship with yourself in your heart center.

Do this frequently. When you wake up, when you go to sleep, several times during the day. Go to your inner child when you're feeling down, anxious, stressed, depressed. Heal their wounds. You can't fix what happened but you can reassure with love that they were in an impossible situation and give them the love to help them rise above it. You're getting a chance to re-parent your inner child.

After you begin to build a foundation of Self love you can then expand the practice to have your inner child bring yoy photos (which are more like snapshots of memories) of the events that were terrifying for them. And you can use inner child healing to tell them how unfair that situation was, that they are not wrong to feel this way, but now that you have found them that they are safe and loved.

After a month or so this exercise morphed on its own to just directly loving myself (adult self loving adult self). I started to be my own best cheerleader and friend. My inner critical voice too has changed to one of unconditional love.

I really hope this helps ������

by Sixsixsixties   2019-08-24

Complex PTSD From Surviving to Thriving and The Body Keeps the Score are great places to start.

by Sigeraed   2019-08-24

This is a topic that is explored very well in the topical book from Pete Walker "From Surviving to Thriving". I already knew quite a bit from my own experience but this book was validating, if you know any friend who got through childhood abuse I could not recommend any better resource.

by HazyDreamLikeState   2019-08-24

Treatment of Schizoid Personality Disorder:

https://search.proquest.com/openview/10cb591b9eb8147e5881ffc5bb279e66/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=18750&diss=y

Youtuber I came across that I think is pretty spot on:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XXIxPLPWMc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wyu3xQHCVGc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X25gKl3QPhU

Most material on SPD is pretty old so I personally don't really bother with it. You are better off focusing on CPTSD and the freeze response as there is much more material on that. I'd recommend Pete Walker's book:

https://www.amazon.com/Complex-PTSD-Surviving-RECOVERING-CHILDHOOD/dp/1492871842

by WhiteTigerZimri   2019-07-21

Trauma-informed therapy can really help, but if you can't afford that there are lots of good books and free resources around. EFT tapping is a great tool you can learn for free and use for healing trauma. I'd also recommend this book: https://www.amazon.com/Complex-PTSD-Surviving-RECOVERING-CHILDHOOD/dp/1492871842

by SovietStomper   2019-07-21

About CPTSD in general? This book by Pete Walker is a pretty seminal work.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1492871842/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_ZHsPCbTPKG205_nodl

This other one also helped me a lot, because the physiological crap that comes along with CPTSD is every bit as terrible as the emotional component:

https://www.amazon.com/Body-Keeps-Score-Healing-Trauma/dp/0143127748/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=URYXV0O6HWS6&keywords=the+body+keeps+the+score&qid=1554327719&s=gateway&sprefix=the+bidy&sr=8-1

Ultimately though, therapy and journaling are going to be your best starting points for your personal recovery. If you can find a therapist that has experience with trauma, that’s your best bet. I would also recommend seeing a general practitioner and a psychiatrist because of the aforementioned physical issues.

by [deleted]   2019-07-21

Disclaimer: This is purely my remote read on the situation. Please take anything useful from this post to your therapist and priest for a second opinion. Apologies if you've heard any of this psychological or spiritual advice before. I read this post and your previous one, that's all that I know about you.

Quick background on me: I am recovering co-dependent / son of a narcissistic Mother. She was sexually abused / child of alcohol parents. In my mid-20s I had no idea I'd been the victim of abuse and was the codependent in a very toxic relationship that saw me end up getting fired, arrested and abandoned in deep debt. After beginning to pray the rosary, I entered therapy and discovered I had C-PTSD caused by almost 29 years of deep psychological abuse. I have also worked with two separate integration / trauma coaches specialized in narcissistic personality disorder and have totally transformed my life. I became Catholic , sober and chaste. Still have a long way to go but your story breaks my heart because in some ways I've been there. In so many way, I can't even imagine what you're going through!

  1. Have you or your therapist discussed narcissism? It is an epidemic in our culture. I mean it is EVERYWHERE. It is no coincidence that St. Michael's means "Who is like God?" - Satan is the ultimate narcissist. It occurs as the direct result of an attack on the family and manifests most when one or both parents are spiritually compromised.
  2. It is a generational challenge. It is passed from one generation to the next until it is stopped in its tracks. The survivor grows up to be co-dependant or narcissistic and the pair become totally enmeshed with one another.
  3. People with NPD, or who have narcissistic traits, are often misdiagnosed on their symptoms. For example: they may be labeled Bi-Polar, Depressed, Histrionic etc. Again, my personal hypothesis is that Narcissism is at the root of most of these evils.
  4. As the co-dependant, if they are a Narc, then you are the prey in this relationship. They get narcissistic supply from you the more you struggle. There is a sequence of valuation, then devaluation, then discard where they threaten to get rid of you or actually do. Then they act sweet in the 'hoovering' phase to commence the process all over again.
  5. I was able to diagnose myself with C-PTSD through hours of research of study. This was not a diagnosis by my therapist but the fruits of my understanding speak for themselves as I've overcome addiction. I think therapists are majorly lacking when it comes to understanding C-PTSD and diagnosing it. It wasn't included in the DSM until recently. I highly recommend the following book by Pete Walker it is without a doubt the best book on the topic for the lay person. He has another book but this one is more practical.
  6. In many cases. If it is a narcissist, the recommended option in most cases is No Contact. However, since you have a child together and seem to have a very good head on your shoulders this might not be necessary in your case.
  7. Have you considered speaking to an exorcist? C-PTSD is akin to demonic oppression and Narcissim is akin to demonic possession. An exorcist can handle both. I've encountered demons twice. Once in my mother's eyes and once in my body the night I was arrested. The large majority of cases are purely psychological but an exorcist typically operates with a team of psychologists so even in the event no spiritual threat is present they can help you. I'd speak to the local diocese if your parish isn't helpful. JPII specifically commissioned exorcists be trained during his papacy but in these modern times many priests and catholics might not fully buy the idea.
    1. Edit: if you don't have any luck in the regular diocses you can use TLM finder (app) and speak with FSSP parishes in your area. They will likely be more knowledgeable regarding demonology but be discerning.
  8. Another weapon in your tool kit is to pray the Auxilium Christianorum prayers every day to get rid of demonic oppression in your life and your family.
  9. Not sure of your rosary frequency, I'm assuming it's fantastic since you went on 4 day retreat but an easy win is to ensure you're knocking out 5 decades a day. Then Our Lady is with you in full force. My secret weapon is the Litany of Loreto. There is no better technique to keep the love you have for your wife and Our Lady burning than saying the Litanry of Loreto regularly. Pray in Latin as much as you can. The devil hates it.
  10. Also, the7 Joys and Sorrows of St. Joseph were designed for the struggling father. Literally. They were given by Joseph to two monks who almost drowned in the ocean. He can be your rock through this storm if he isn't already. St. Joseph is the terror of demons for a reason.
  11. Guardian Angel. Get your Guardian Angel on the frontlines with you every day. Send them on missions, get them to bring messages from God, talk to them to keep you focused and motivated. Whatever you need to do.
  12. 30 Day Novena To Mary Mother of Mercies - This is the secret weapon. She will be your shelter, and in reflecting daily on the Passion of Her Son you will get all the Grace you need. Just ask her each day.

I'm so sorry you and your family have to deal with this! Please message me directly if you need anything. You are not alone my friend! xx

by crushedviolet   2019-07-21

Please don’t apologise for your pain, it’s as legitimate as anyone else’s.

Narcissistic abuse is often covert (hidden) leaving victims unaware of the actual cause of their woundedness (and questioning their sense of reality).

From what you describe it appears your mother may be covertly narcissistic.

Check out the following and see if it fits:

http://parenting.exposed/the-covert-narcissistic-parent/

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Dr Judy Rosenberg also discusses covert narcissism here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc1ZNO3V_L8

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Much narcissistic abuse is subtle, and covert (ambient). It is often also structured and delivered in a manner that makes it deniable.

The following book by Shannon Thomas, Healing from Hidden Abuse discusses such dynamics (cover quote):

‘Psychological abuse leaves no bruises. There are no broken bones. There are no holes in the walls. The bruises, brokenness and holes are held tightly within the target of the abuse’.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Healing-Hidden-Abuse-Recovery-Psychological-ebook/dp/B01JR4ST9S

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I am no contact with my family. This wasn’t an easy decision but I am emotionally better off for it. Any no contact decision is of course individual.

The reality is people do not arrive at the point of considering it if there isn’t something seriously dysfunctional occurring. Meredith Miller describes ‘toxic hope’ keeping us bound to the 'cult-like' system that is the narcissistic family.  The 'If only' thoughts are the product of being conditioned to seek validation from the narcissist. They don't however oblige us to accept an ongoing dynamic of abuse (this is ultimately a choice).

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WHEN TO BURY THE HOPE - Meredith Miller

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExR_XNoUpD4

THE NARCISSISTS FAMILY CULT - Meredith Miller

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWY05MadRJk

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There is an excellent book by Pete Walker on CPTSD (you might well be experiencing its effects):

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Complex-PTSD-Surviving-RECOVERING-CHILDHOOD/dp/1492871842/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1543395285&sr=8-1&keywords=cptsd

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More generally .

http://parenting.exposed/no-triangulation-here-thanks/ TRIANGULATION

http://parenting.exposed/enabling-partner-of-a-narcissist-parent/ THE ENABLING PARENT

http://parenting.exposed/no-contact-when-the-scapegoat-walks-away/ WHEN THE SCAPEGOAT WALKS AWAY

http://parenting.exposed/the-relationship-between-the-scapegoat-and-the-golden-child/ GOLDEN CHILD/ SCAPEGOAT RELATIONSHIP

http://parenting.exposed/the-family-scapegoat-set-up/ THE SCAPEGOATED CHLD - SET UP

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Please check out Dr Judy Rosenberg's YouTube channel - Dr Judy WTF (What the Freud!). It's a powerful resource for those wishing to understand and heal from narcissistic abuse. She also hosts a weekly online radio show. I'm sure if you watch her words will resonate.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOJvZ0gxCu_G5ufZjsI3TCw/videos

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Before we can begin to heal we firstly need to shine light on our wounds and understand their cause.

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by ruapie   2019-07-21

Hi! I hope this is okay, but if you haven't already read it I really recommend this book. I got my diagnoses just over a year ago it has been an incredible help. (If you have already read it and I'm being a dope, my sincere apologies!!).

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Also your job sounds v stressful :o

by VanFailin   2019-07-21

Diagnoses help when they help, and validation is one of the ways that they can help. Have you read Pete Walker's book?

by Krolokko   2019-01-13

Np, unfortunately most therapists are not very educated about complex trauma, so I would advice you to do some research and see if you get along well before picking one (if you have the opportunity). Same guy has an article about finding a therapist, which could be helpful.

Yes, it's very validating seeing how your past and current problems are all interconnected. Makes you feel less of a freak. I'm posting some book recommendations in case you would like to know more. Just reading one of them will help you a long way in understanding why you are the way you are:

Complex PTSD: From Surviving to Thriving by Pete Walker

The Drama of the Gifted Child by Alice Miller

Healing the Fragmented Selves of Trauma Survivors by Janina Fisher

by TotoroTomato   2019-01-13

So, from all the other replies you know that therapy is highly recommended. It made a world of difference for me as well. I'd add that you should try to find a trauma specialist that is familiar with childhood emotional abuse and CPTSD.

However, I also know that you may not feel able or ready to pull the trigger on therapy for some time. You may think that what you went through still wasn't that bad, that you will be fine, that therapy is for people who can't hack it or are broken. Those things are not true, but you can only benefit from therapy when you are ready and want to heal further.

In the meantime, check out the book Complex PTSD: from surviving to thriving. My therapist recommended it to me and I found it really really helpful. https://toptalkedbooks.com/amzn/1492871842

by Beardharmonica   2019-01-13

There's new treatments for complex trauma. Grounding techniques and EMDR are really effective. You might have been misdiagnosed. I would look into C-PTSD. Medication and therapy are different.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_post-traumatic_stress_disorder

https://toptalkedbooks.com/amzn/1492871842

http://www.emdr.com/frequent-questions/

by finally_safe_from_Ns   2018-11-10

I feel you. It takes a lot of courage to learn what healthy relationships are all about. The great news is that you evolved to have love and connection, and you can do this.

I highly recommend these two books:

“Not the price of admission“ by Laura Brown https://toptalkedbooks.com/amzn/1517683408

“Complex PTSD: from surviving to thriving“ by Pete Walker https://toptalkedbooks.com/amzn/1492871842

Pete Walker also has lots of helpful resources on his website:

http://www.pete-walker.com

I wish you well!

by [deleted]   2018-11-10

I really feel for you. I also grew up with a narcissist parent. I've been no contact for 4 years and my life is now so much better. The behaviour of where your n-parent doesn't "remember" the abuse she has caused to you is often a form of denial, most common ego defence mechanism that allows a narcissist to never take responsibility for their actions. Projection is also what they like doing. While all people use ego defence mechanisms to a degree, narcissists often use only the most immature ones and so often and to so over-the-top that most people recognize that what they are doing is neither very normal nor healthy. Some also use gaslighting which is a very fucked-up thing to do for one's own child (or anyone in that matter, but especially for one's kids).

If you ever need to read only one book about recovering from childhood trauma, I wholeheartly recommend reading Pete Walker's book C-PTSD: From Surviving to Thriving . Reading it is was almost like someone were recording my whole life since childhood and just reading it through in itself is a very catharhic experience. It gives an explanation of how trauma is formed, how it affects one in the adulthood and gives a guide and a map for resolving the issues (abandonment depression, anxiety disorders, eating disorders, substance abuse, insecure attachment styles, emotional flashbacks etc.) of which is often are the result of narcissistic upbringing and of which fall under the disorder C-PTSD. Even "just" emotional neglect can cause it and in some sense it's worse that way given that when someone is like physically or sexually abused it's so much easier to point out what went wrong when emotional neglect/abuse in itself feels such a vague thing that is "hard to put finger on what went wrong" and makes it difficult to validate for oneself that abuse did really happen and thus makes it more difficult to advance in the recovery progress.

I wish you all the best. Thank you for sharing your story.