The Polyvagal Theory: Neurophysiological Foundations of Emotions, Attachment, Communication, and Self-regulation (Norton Series on Interpersonal Neurobiology)

Category: Medicine
Author: Stephen W. Porges
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by prajna_upekkha   2018-11-10

I'm already happy to share healthy enquiry skills.

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There's someone posting here as u/not-moses.

I've found this poster's lists, on average, to contain about 50 to 70 % of books I've been drawn to out of sheer intuition for the last ten years. First half of those were five years of increasing meditation and yoga practices as well, not 'seriously', just started, see what happens. Very good things happened and still do, a very rich life.

Back to these awesome lists of books and authors, I have to credit this same poster for introducing me to The Polyvagal Theory .

I'm taking this chance to ask said poster:

besides The Polyvagal, what book/s would you recommend that explains the same, and does it so in a similar depth/reach, but so that'd help someone without much knowledge on the matter still easily understand this whole Polyvagal paradigm?

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That's how far actual Science is getting to now, we 'CPTSDers' are pioneers and harbingers of this new paradigm. With our struggles, precisely, and all.

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Two more particular things may be relevant about those times and de-programming:

–Around the third year in it, I remember myself telling a good friend: 'Dude, this year I'm only reading Zen books' (I saw a de-programming key in there, for me anyway, I followed it), straight from the source texts and such, nothing modern; all kinds of varieties of it. Same happened before and after for (indian and tibetan)Buddhism traditions, Huna, Hinduism, Shivaism, Sufis, Gurdjeff, Krishnamurti and plenty of comparable systems, and out of that comparison naturally emerges an intuited framework to relating that will be of your own (more conscious and Self-supporting) creation. I'll remind this went on along a smooth, effortless, goal-less yoga and meditation beginnings. This too was approached in a healthy skeptical attitude I was just then starting to consciously implement -the old 'see what happens' [empty mind/new eyes].

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–A little thing that happened out of this was I developed the two-bladed habit of re-directing my critic attacks (I'd guess a little previous re-programming was necessary to get here), by dissecting them both ways, and watch it, honestly and closely watch it. 'What an idiot that person!' would turn into 'well, what if the idiot here is the one getting emotionally upset about smth only exists in THIS THOUGHT?'; and the other way around 'Oh I'm such an idiot', became 'Sure as fuck I've learned this constant self-berating by imitation of my parents -masters at this apparently inconsequential habit- so why am I even believing this nonsense for one second?'

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Patternes became self-evident. Inner critic was silenced for long time, all along it kept away from influencing any aspect of my life. It does require constant update; but I figure most people on this sub would've realized by now, that's precisely the point to life, if there's one. Meaning, it's never 'work', nor 'hard', it's something we do, see what happens (as in opposed to the Consensus Trance-based ASSUMPTIONS/PROJECTIONS-taken-for-knowledge, that we must do, must accomplish, must achieve, must, should, better be, etc, etc)

by prajna_upekkha   2018-11-10

Freud died long ago. Mankind's understanding of the human psyche AND the human body have come way far from 'inheritable neuroticism'. That, no disrespect here, is the quackery –one the whole world's believed for far too long now.

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This is not a cherry-picked study, and i encourage you please do some (any) research around this, origins, context, how it ties to LOTS of previous research and above all to the inevitable conclusions of 50 years of trauma research out of integrating results from multiple scientific disciplines; you'll find too many 'cherry-picked`' studies pointing in the same direction:

The Polyvagal Theory

And, most importantly, check it out against your own experience, your own body, mind, history.

I wish someone had told me all this a long time ago.

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by prajna_upekkha   2018-11-10

hi!

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Do you mean about the addiction part of it?

If that's the case, you may check HERE .

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Other stuff from Maté as well as George Koob's research on trauma being the underlying condition for addiction -i.e. addiction being a result of trauma- may be of interest to you.

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NOTE: if 'trauma' strikes too big a word, some deconstruction work will be required; Trauma is everywhere –see someone with the depression+anxiety combo? that's so often (C-)PTSD.

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In my 'view' psychedelics are not addictive (except cannabis, which has quite the potential), that's why i'm not sure if i'm sharing anything of help here; i hope so.

Finally, something that naturally embraces -and, in doing so, redefines and unifies- a great number of realms, disciplines, concepts, sciences and even whole paradigms, and even actual human experience! And no, it's not 'New Age' stuff, it's the very latest Science.

It's a dense read, but so, so, so worth it,

Stephen Porges' The Polyvagal Theory .

Enjoy 'em.