No More Mr Nice Guy

Author: Robert A. Glover
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by W_O_M_B_A_T   2019-01-13

You're a "Nice Guy."

Read "No More Mr Nice Guy" By Robert A. Glover.

by TheOldGuy54   2019-01-13

Read this book! It is not about becoming a dick to others but learning to stand up for yourself

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No More Mr Nice Guy by Dr Robert Glover

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"Nice Guy Syndrome" trying too hard to please others while neglecting one's own needs, thus causing unhappiness and resentfulness. It's no wonder that unfulfilled Nice Guys lash out in frustration at their loved ones, claims Dr. Glover. He explains how they can stop seeking approval and start getting what they want in life, by presenting the information and tools to help them ensure their needs are met, to express their emotions, to have a satisfying sex life, to embrace their masculinity and form meaningful relationships with other men, and to live up to their creative potential.

by TheOldGuy54   2019-01-13

Sounds like the problem I had with porn .... Wife caught me... Your story is literally what happened to the wife and me.

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My porn use was a form of meditation, I could zone out to porn and did not have to think about work, marriage, kids, The more you watch the more your brain gets addicted to the Dopamine rush..... You then spend hours and hours looking for the one image that will trigger that rush. Then you throw the shame and guilt on top and WOW it starts all over again.

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Two things that helped me out big time was a book called No More Mr Nice Guy by Dr Robert Glover - The book is not about being a jerk guy but in my case it was that I would try and please everyone all of the time, I hated conflict , everything needed to run smoothly... with this a lot of Nice Guys Turn to Porn...... My wife was mad for about 2 years, we did a lot of counseling and worked through it

I hope this helps

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I also joined his porn addiction group Sons of Ulysses

https://www.drglover.com/tpi-university/sons-of-ulysses.html

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by RedPillPowerNine   2018-11-10

> set aside time in the evenings to just be “with” my wife, not just in the same room on our phones.

That's an attraction killer right there. There is a lot of value in these books, they have helped a lot of men.

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The above book isn't about being a dick, it's about being assertive and being able to communicate your needs. It's loaded with exercises to do with your spouse.

Next

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Then, for the warmth and attraction you are missing form your wife is proablly your fault and you don't even know what you did. All married men should read this book.

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If one of thoes books help you make sure to play it forward and help another man. It's why I'm here taking punches in the face in blue pill land.

by jimmyharbrah   2018-11-10

To add to this reading list:

When I say No I feel Guilty

And

No More Mr. Nice Guy

Very generally, both books helped me understand that I was looking to others for approval, rather than finding approval from myself. I think it would be worth reading for any man, but especially what OP is describing.

by Mox_Ruby   2018-11-10

>In short, I kind of feel like we should call it off. I've actually tried to do so a few times, but she becomes so inconsolable and sad- and I feel guilty about moving and, for that one year period, being a super shitty boyfriend- that I quickly cave. It seems clear to me that she will never call off the relatonship/engagement. Perhaps because she feels the pressure of biological clock, is worried what other people think, or something else. But she wont call it off, and she wont change.

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>The biggest thing to me is that I am starting to mimic her verbal abuse. I've NEVER been one to argue in a relationship, or really in general (not in a mean spirited way). but i occasionally curse at her. on 3-4 occasions, she has even become physically violent with me. I'm not in physical danger or anything and I'm not pretending its remotely the same as the reverse (gender speaking), but its a level of "crazy" i never wanted to be involved in.

Solution:

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>Plus she is almost 35, and feels she is running out of time.

That's a dangerous place to be for you. This is where unexpected pregnancies tend to pop up. Think about this from her perspective. She's 35, if you leave her, she has to secure another male and get him to commit, that could take over a year. Then she has to spend enough time with him to build a relationship and get a proposal. Then she has to conceive, it takes 9 months to make a baby if she gets pregnant on the first attempt and you should read some facts about how hard it csn be to conceive at 40 because that's where she will be. Her time Is running out and it has to be you. These are the worst possible conditions to set up a healthy marriage.

You don't value YOURSELF. That's your main issue. You lived in the Bay area as a young professional that means you have earning potential. And you sound like a good man.

You need to set better boundaries.

You have already been nice enough putting up with what you have so far. It's time to be a bit unnice.

by beelzebubs_avocado   2018-11-10

Your friend might find the book "No More Mr Nice Guy: A Proven Plan for Getting What You Want in Love, Sex, and Life" useful.

by Makorbit   2018-11-10

The difficulty of trying to improve 'social skills' is that social interactions are not automata, that is, there is no fixed flowchart or script you can learn that will work in every situation. The solution? Develop the correct mindset and inner pillar of confidence and everything will grow from there.

No book will ever replace real-life practice, but your mentality determines pretty much everything when going into these situations. It impacts your growth, direction, perspective on situations, and most importantly, your confidence.

Practicing The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle

Mindefulness Meditation and inner peace

I am not a spiritual or religious person, this book has some religious flavour but the ideas are powerful. I've been looking for a good book on mindfulness meditation and similar practices and this has been pretty good so far. The mind is a tool, mindfulness meditation gives you the skills to control it. Helps you get 'out of your head' which causes you to blank out, or fall into one of your 'ruts'.

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Just As You Are by Nick Sparks

Confidence and Mentality

I haven't read this in a while but I found this to be helpful at the time. The main thing I got out of this was the concept of ruts, and general discussion about what they are and how to deal with them.

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Mastery by George Leonard

Mentality and Growth

Social skills are 'skills' just like anything else. Mastery is a fantastic short read discussing the journey to mastery in any skill, the expected pitfalls, and the mentality needed to get there.

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The Like Switch

Social Frameworks

Fairly good read, I liked this better than the ever popular 'How to win friends and influence people'.

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No More Mr. Niceguy by Robert Glover

Social ruts and self-reflection

The 'niceguy' syndrome is a very toxic mentality that infects a fair number of people. This will stop you from becoming an r/redpill or r/incels person.

by fgawker   2018-11-10

No More Mr. Nice Guy.

by takemehomecountry   2018-11-10

You can try Models by Mark Manson. Or possibly No More Mr. Nice Guy by Robert Glover.

I've read the former and it's pretty much TRP self-improvement advice without the misogyny. I haven't read the latter but I think it's the same.

by pupilofproductivity   2018-11-10

No More Mr Nice Guy - By Robert A. Glover

by jw_wobblylight   2018-11-10

Seems many people adopted a cult like following to the philosophies Objectivism, reminds me of the 48 laws on people’s Need to Believe to Create a Cult like Following http://48laws-of-power.blogspot.com/2011/05/law-27-play-on-peoples-need-to-believe.html.

The essence on her philosophies also reminds me of the book [https://toptalkedbooks.com/amzn/0762415339) when i read that book, while empowering made me angry on how much I always try and please others as the expense of my own virtues.

Its an interesting subject.

by catdaddy4evr   2018-11-10

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by Lone_survivor87   2018-11-10

I suggest you take a look at the book "No More Mr. Nice Guy" by Dr. Robert A Glover. As a fellow guy with self esteem and self respect issues this book helped me immensely. I'm not sure what country you live in but it is currently on sale on Amazon.

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by helaughsinhidden   2018-11-10

Two books for you OP.

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and

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GOOD LUCK!

by TheOldGuy54   2018-11-10

Hey I am 54 and good news it gets better!

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First thing I would do is take care of yourself. Hit the gym a bit, reflect on life, do something nice for yourself.

I am not sure if your kids are teenagers yet but if they are they are vile creatures between 12-18 but then they get better.

Be careful about how much porn you watch.... I had a huge porn problem in my 40's and it became my escape from reality. The problem is that your brain starts to crave that dopamine rush and it is harder to get that rush without spending hours jerking to porn. Looking for that one perfect video or photo that makes you cum. I started doing a 30 day reset, No porn, no jerking off, no sex It is one of the hardest things I have done but it clears the mind. Get our and be social, but don't fucking chase women!

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At 54 I know that I don't have much time left on earth and I am not going to waist one minute. When I stopped trying to make everyone happy all of the time and focused on myself things got better. I stopped putting pussy on a pedestal. If I can give you two great books to read the links are below and they are on audio

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No More Mr Nice Guy by Dr Robert Glover

[https://toptalkedbooks.com/amzn/0762415339)

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The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck: A Counterintuitive Approach to Living a Good Life

[https://toptalkedbooks.com/amzn/0062457713)

by 41mHL   2018-11-10

Hey reddit, is there a women's equivalent to No More Mr. Nice Guy ?

by RedPillPowerNine   2018-11-10

Ok stop. You have to divorce this horrible woman. She has been cheating on you for years. She dosent respect you as a man an treats you like shit. Leaving her will not solve your problem. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM! If you don't fix you, the next one will turn Into another version of this harpy shrew.

Read these 2 books because you need serious help. In the books when they say talk to your spouse, don't do that. These books and information is for you only. To fix you.

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by politicalconspiracie   2018-11-10

I'm telling you that you are completely misunderstanding (I think purposely) of what stuff like this is trying to do.

> And since it's aimed at guys that we already know are socially inexperienced, how are they going to know that that's not how it actually works?

That's the point dude. This type of stuff is for people to gain expereience and learn from their mistakes and failures. Otherwise they would never learn how to flirt with girls and would wind up being pissed off pathetic loners their whole life.

I've been there man. I was the "nice guy" before that put women on a pedastal and thought if I was just nice enough, then I would earn the girls love or attraction. And that type of thinking is just toxic for everyone involved.

It took reading books like No More Mr. Nice Guy and The Game to learn how to have healthy relationships with women where I was open about interest in the other girl.

And it obviously worked for me, because I used these techniques when I met my now current wife. She had no idea I was using these techniques until I told her about it down the road, and now we just laugh about it. She never thought I was being creepy and she didn't even realize I was using these techniques.

But, it took a lot of failures with other random girls that were awkward encounters at first until it became natural.

I've been married for about 3 years now and we have an amazing fulfilling and loving relationship.