> Libertarians are not fascists
Left libertarian is fine. Right libertarianism is a blend of free market and fascism.
Book about the rise of the right libertarian movement in the US here
You keep citing stuff from here.
>Why is America living in an age of profound economic inequality? Why, despite the desperate need to address climate change, have even modest environmental efforts been defeated again and again? Why have protections for employees been decimated? Why do hedge-fund billionaires pay a far lower tax rate than middle-class workers?
The conventional answer is that a popular uprising against “big government” led to the ascendancy of a broad-based conservative movement. But as Jane Mayer shows in this powerful, meticulously reported history, a network of exceedingly wealthy people with extreme libertarian views bankrolled a systematic, step-by-step plan to fundamentally alter the American political system.
At this stage Im of the belief you are paid to promote this anti mens rights stuff.
No, your libertarian is libertarian in name only.
“One gratifying aspect of our rise to some prominence is that, for the first time in my memory, we, ‘our side,’ had captured a crucial word from the enemy . . . ‘Libertarians’ . . . had long been simply a polite word for left-wing anarchists, that is for anti-private property anarchists, either of the communist or syndicalist variety. But now we had taken it over...”
― Murray N. Rothbard, The Betrayal Of The American Right
You are being manipulated.
Pride aren't for removing environmental protection, consumer rights laws, labour laws, social safety nets and selling the place out to corporate interests. Or protecting monuments celebrating slavery and lynchings and so on.
>Do you think the presence of any pro Malcolm X material at a Black Pride march should mean we should shut the entirr thing down?
No at all, there is a big difference between fighting for oppression and rebelling against it. And I don't agree with any of these groups today, they are all useful idiots.
>Not clear where you get the idea Alt Right are anti-democracy.
This is the jist of what the alt right is, I took that quote from description of a similar book.
You dont want this happening in australia.
The billionaire class have been waging class warfare since the 1980s.
You can read a bit about it here ... have a read about what the book is about.
Thats why things have gotten so bad for men.
And mra's dont object to marxists - they object to center right liberal democrats.
Read Dark Money. Uber rich people like the Koch Brothers and the Devoss family want to change education because educated people tend to understand that climate change is real and war is bad so they are a threat to the Koch's and Devoss' industries.
Mainly pushed by the Koch Brothers:
This might . Private funding, funneled through philantropic foundations to charitable and social causes. Aimed and organized specifically to swing close elections, influence their idea of a conservative ideology and culture and hand-pick candidates in their service. Billions of dollars from very very rich donors. Candidates either toe their line or find themselves either without funding, or run out of primaries. Paul Ryan and many others are featured.
Lots of names, lots of details. One of the best books I've read on american politics in a long time.
>No borders no country. Your country doesn't exist if you believe the billions of people outside your country have just as much of a right to alter it as it's citizens.
This is the libertarian, free market ideal. Progressive legislation on immigration was a way of defending the working peoples wages from corporate interests that want the cheapest labour possible.
>More delusion, nice.
No, the idea that liberals are communists is nonsense thats fed to guys by the right libertarian movement.
>No America is being polluted by democrats who expand government and then sell favors, it's not lost yet.
The far right libertarian billionaires have been bribing politicians on both sides for years.
That isn't communism, its what some call late stage capitalism, or neoliberalism. Through deregulation private and corporate interests get so powerful they take control of the government.
Its why for example the infrastructure crumbled and lots of men were unemployed, the libertarian corporate interests wanted to shrink government spending so they stopped building roads. And the economy took a much harder crash in 2008 because of it.
Now corporations have the road contracts and the american worker is getting fucked because its a corporate welfare scam.
You can get a decent overview of neoliberalism here.
The video at the bottom of this article is a great explanation of how liberal politicians are helping corporate interests rob the rest of us, while pretending thats not what they are doing.
>Socialism\Communism are just advanced forms of the exact government corruption you wrongly think is rampant here.
Socialism and communism are relevant when you are talking about north korea.
Not in america, america is an oligarchy.
>yes we went to war with socialists because they were committing genocide, we went to war with communists because their ideology killed some 100 million people.
You left out the part where capitalist countries were running trade blockades and sabotaging development before, durning and after natural famines and a much higher death toll in the name of capitalism.
> dozens of economics departments are given large donations by the billionaire Koch Brothers.
There's an entire book on this
Ok, well a good source is a primary source.
I can say that UN directive 224 dictates that we all must worship frogs as our overlords by 2020, but unless I can link you to the UN actually stating that, my claims can be dismissed.
There is a far right movement against any sort of restrictions on pollution. If this right libertarian movement gets it way, an oil company wont have any regulations stopping it from polluting your area as badly as they can do in corrupt african countries where they are allowed do whatever they want.
Your sources are far right, and they are making untrue claims about policies that are designed to curb their pollution.
>Very, very few of them do.
Ford Foundation is a deep state front. It created modern feminism and promoted and backed the free market movement, which was kicked off in the chilian dictatorship and then spread to all our countries.
>Or you've been deluded into thinking that there's some massive desire for libertarianism among corporations, which there isn't.
Why wouldn't corporations want to do away with work place safety regulations, pollution limitations, labour laws and anything else that stands in the way of profits. Do they not want anti trust laws gone - like the ones the banks did away with that lead to the melt down in 2008?
Average men have been targeted and used to support tea party, right libertarianism and so on based on the lie that its grass roots and will bring them freedom.
Thats the opposite of the truth, well researched book about it here.
You need to read a book. For instance Dark Money by Jane Mayer
Once you've done that come back and talk to me about the Kock brothers.
>Why are you against giving people choices if the public education system is failing their children?
Public education works fine in plenty of countries.
Privatized education doesn't mean choices, it means poor men don't have access to a good education so it maintains a cast system and that men coming out of an education are saddled with large debts.
It can also lead to colleges putting on lots of attractive sounding but manipulative course - private interests can manipulate the information given to students. For example the Kock Brothers bribe colleges to teach free market ideology, other parts of the deep state push for feminist ideology.
Where is all the feminist stuff coming from?
Its not from public education ... its from the private schools of the rich.
And can you imagine if corporations ran schools? Corporations are the most authoritarian institutions we have.
Anyhow, there is an argument to be made that US public education isn't bad.
>No, the Post Office is not a private company. Although, I prefer UPS and FedEx as they are more reliable. I'm glad I have that choice.
Ok, thats good, only stupid or corrupt countries privatize everything.
Privatized post can cost more, Germany and UK privatized their post and its more expensive to the consumer than the US system.
>Electricity is provided by a private company. I'm not sure you want the government deciding how much electricity you can use and when you can use it.
Never experienced that here with a semi state electricity company that competes with private companies on service and prices.
What Im talking about is a free market system, where the inevitable result is a monopoly (or duopoly). You don't want that.
>Private companies do not provide my transport, or any in the city (other than various taxi services like Uber. Public transportation is still very much publicly funded... just unreliable)
Ok, this is good. Just needs some tweaking.
>14.5% of the US are living in poverty (which I'll add poverty in the US is still better than the majority of the rest of the world).
Recent census data shows that half the population qualifies as poor or low income, with one in five Millennials living in poverty. Academic contributors to The Routledge Handbook of Poverty in the United States postulate that new and extreme forms of poverty have emerged in the U.S. as a result of neoliberal structural adjustment policies and globalization, which have rendered economically marginalized communities as destitute "surplus populations" in need of control and punishment.
In 2011, child poverty reached record high levels, with 16.7 million children living in food insecure households, about 35% more than 2007 levels. A 2013 UNICEF report ranked the U.S. as having the second highest relative child poverty rates in the developed world. According to a 2016 study by the Urban Institute, teenagers in low income communities are often forced to join gangs, save school lunches, sell drugs or exchange sexual favors because they cannot afford food.
There were about 643,000 sheltered and unsheltered homeless people nationwide in January 2009. Almost two-thirds stayed in an emergency shelter or transitional housing program and the other third were living on the street, in an abandoned building, or another place not meant for human habitation. About 1.56 million people, or about 0.5% of the U.S. population, used an emergency shelter or a transitional housing program between October 1, 2008 and September 30, 2009. Around 44% of homeless people are employed.
In June 2016, the IMF warned the United States that its high poverty rate needs to be tackled urgently by raising the minimum wage and offering paid maternity leave to women to encourage them to enter the labor force.
In the US, most of the middle class are living under an illusion sustained by debt and are 1 or two pay cheques away from being bankrupt.
> mean... pretty much everything you've posted on this topic can't be supported by independent sources.
There is a reason why there is so many are disenfranchised. Its called the neoliberal project, or right libertarianism.
Its a movement of class warfare by the rich class against men that was started in the chilian dictatorship by the same foundations that created modern feminism. They are looking after women and throwing men under the bus.
Men in all our countries are sufferring under it.
There are multiple sources on it.