Killing Hope: U.S. Military and C.I.A. Interventions Since World War II--Updated Through 2003

Author: William Blum
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by shadowsweep   2017-12-06

relevant book.

by Licio_Gelli   2017-12-06

Killing Hope by William Blum

by shadowsweep   2017-12-06

so many ways to skin this cat.

thank them for giving us 500 years of imperialism, 2 world wars, dropping two nuclear bombs on civilians, committing genocide across Asia, and killing Blacks at home and abroad.


Africans welcome China's investments while telling Europeans to fuck off.


Some names you can rattle off Vietnam, Iraq, Libya, Cambodia, Laos, Yemen, Syria. I would include more but those require more arguing and there's already a lot of examples without going there. Alternatively, you can point to one book,


CIA, black torture sites, illegal drone assassinations, Monsanto seeds of destruction [


They will always bring up Tibet --> tell them about the CIA Tibet connection or point to First Nations, Australian Aboriginals, Guam, Diego Garcia, Annexation of Hawaii. Point to the Barry Sautman study that debunks. IT was the most unsuccessful "genocide" in human history. The population doubled under Mao. It's a total failure compared to "White man benevolence"


They will always bring up Mao's "genocide". Demand proof of the mass graves. None were ever found. China was never charged with genocide. declassified CIA documents confirm there was no genocide.

by countercom2   2017-08-19

re:First of all, why do you consider American military power to be an extension of white power?

(oops misread) - Because it benefits white people at the expense of non-white lives (and occasionally, white lives also)

re:Our President is Barack Obama. Minorities hold significant positions of power in America's military and power structure, influencing foreign policy.

See the power behind the throne concept. Those people you mention are curated puppets. They are handpicked for their obedience. They have no power. The power is in the multinationals and bankers - the oligarchy.

re:why do you consider American military power as "white man's imperialism" when it isn't the case anymore?

When their white "Christian" soldiers gang rape our women, they enjoy extraterritoriality. The bases in Okinawa were used by white "Christians" to genocide Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, and Korea. If China didn't have nukes, they'd be dead too.

White multinationals plundered their countries and dominated many non-white economies.

Here's an incomplete list of victims of white "Christians".

● Canada ● America ● Mexico ● Australia ● New Zealand ● Hawaii

● Iraq ● Afghanistan ● Syria ● Iran ● Kuwait

● China ● Vietnam ● Korea ● India ● Pakistan (split from India thanks to British Christians) ● Tibet ● Laos ● Cambodia ● Philippines ● Indonesia. ● East Timor

● Cuba ● Peru ● El Salvador ● Panama ● Guatemala ● Nicaragua ● Brazil ● Chile

● Libya ● Somalia ● Sudan ● Congo ● South Africa ● South Yemen ● Haiti ● Ghana

● Yugoslavia ● Ukraine ● Bosnia

BILLIONS - with B - were exterminated by them. India alone lost 1.8 billion over a 100 year period thanks to "Christian" British Raj stealing their food and selling it for "Christian" profits, but these subhumans now want to end world hunger by......poisoning people with gmo. They haven't changed. Only their lies have become more sophisticated.

re:why do so many Asians take American military presence so personally as a racial issue, instead of more as a geopolitical one?

Because race and geopolitics are intertwined. During the "Christian" British opium wars against China, guess who was invited to share in the spoils and drugging these chinks and turning shanghai into a giant whorehouse? mostly other white "Christians". Who's the dynamic duo inflicting genocide in the Middle east? anglo-americans. Who tag teamed Indonesia to wipe out East Timor and steal their resources? usa + australia. who applied the Chinese exclusion acts together? Canda and USA. Who spies with the five eyes system globally? usa, uk, australia, new zealand, and canada. all white anglos.

re: How is this possible when China and North Korea have communist governments opposed to the liberal democracies of its neighbors?

There has never been democracy. Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy

HK was ruled by a racist white "Christian" dictatorship for 98.7% of the 156 year rule. Democracy has "given" at the last moment as a "fuck you" to China.

Do a simple death toll. How many TENS of MILLIONS of other Asians have whites raped, exterminated, mutated, and stolen from vs "totalitarian communist" North Korea and China? (civil wars do not count). Are there even 200,000? Meanwhile, whites literally annihilated tens of millions of people over 10,000 km from their shores. Whites are masters of bullshit. Before, it was "we came to give you "Christian" salvation" and now it's "free trade" and "democracy" and "humanitarian intervention". Yet the result is the same. Genocide and domination.

There isn't a single non-white race on earth that hasn't suffered genocide by white "Christians". They have ZERO legitimacy.

re: I feel like the more realistic scenario is that a power vacuum would allow power-hungry countries to more easily bully their neighbors. What evidence is there that suggests otherwise?

See above. Also, Imperial Japan was trained, armed, and encouraged to brutalize Asia by anglo-americans.

re:People say America is intentional causing "divide-and-conquer" but honestly, how?

Simply put, they spread lies like "totalitarian imperialistic China", they'll use false flags, bribe officials, assassinate them if they don't comply, etc. No tactic is too evil for these whites "Christians". See the pictures at the google link at bottom.

see the following books Killing Hope - U.S. Military and C.I.A. Interventions Since World War II--Updated Through 2003.pdf Overthrow: America's Century of Regime Change from Hawaii to Iraq (9780805082401): Stephen Kinzer: Books

re: China's the one who is communist, and educating its people to hate the Japanese.

You lack historical context and current day knowledge. Japan's right wing government basically insults ww2 victims (likely under white command) and North Korea suffers because USA refuses to allow unification. Whites are the problem.

refer to the books I mentioned above.

re: The reason why the European Union works is because all of Europe is a liberal democracy now.

"Western liberal democracies" are a joke with collapsing economies suckling on Germany's economy. They work together because they figured it's better to fuck non-whites over than each other. See Opium Wars above.

re: Basically, isn't America's presence a stabilizing force in Asia that helps smaller countries stand up for themselves?

refer to my death toll point.

re: Taiwan is clearly an independent country, and should be able to have the right to self-determination.......etc

You talk about sovereignty. Who's going to give sovereignty to all the Native Indians (Canada, America), Hawaiins, Australian aboriginals, New Zealander Maoriori. These sanctimonious "Christian" hypocrites AKA "Western liberal democracies" exterminated tens of millions of people all over the globe yet you're relying on them to "defend freedom". Take a look at the freedomz they provide..this is the latest from these "Christians"....

by AlexKerensky   2017-08-19

"The de facto role of the United States Armed Forces will be to keep the world safe for our economy and open to our cultural assault. To those ends, we will do a fair amount of killing." - Lt. Colonel Ralph Peters

"The weaker and poorer a country is, the more dangerous it is as an example. If it can succeed in bringing about a better life for its people, some other place that has more resources will eventually ask, 'why not us?'" - Chomsky

Pro-capitalists essentially rationalize the crushing of leftist movements by denouncing the things pro-capitalists themselves cause. During the French Revolution - which led to values we now trumpet - all the capitalist/monarchist nations rallied together to crush the revolution. This led to a warlord like Napoleon stepping into power to defend the revolution. Marx called this "Bonapartism"; capitalism's excesses cause an equal and opposite excess. It then justifies its excesses by demonizing what it causes.

by countercom2   2017-08-19

> most erratic regime that regularly threatens to drown its neighbors in seas of nuclear fire

srsly. just stfu