Killing Hope: U.S. Military and C.I.A. Interventions Since World War II--Updated Through 2003

Author: William Blum
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by anarkittie   2018-11-10

> That's what happens when you choose to be a client kingdom of the Soviet Empire, and wage wars of aggression on your neighbours on their behalf.

America has instigated plenty wars of aggression. So by your logic, bombing the shit out of America and wiping out 20% of the population should be ok.

by shadowsweep   2018-11-10

Good reference

by OppositeFingat   2018-03-19

Look no further: Killing Hope

by AssuredlyAThrowAway   2018-03-19

Indeed, yea I'm sure Russia was using social media and such to influence voters but thus is free speech and its a bit different than US election officials using software to change votes .

That said, it's hard for America to get up in arms with regards election interference.

The chapters of "Killing Hope" by William Blum point to a certain "pattern" of US behavior in this regard;

China - 1945 to 1960s: Was Mao Zedong just paranoid?

Italy - 1947-1948: Free elections, Hollywood style

Greece - 1947 to early 1950s: From cradle of democracy to client state

The Philippines - 1940s and 1950s: America's oldest colony

Korea - 1945-1953: Was it all that it appeared to be?

Albania - 1949-1953: The proper English spy

Eastern Europe - 1948-1956: Operation Splinter Factor

Germany - 1950s: Everything from juvenile delinquency to terrorism

Iran - 1953: Making it safe for the King of Kings

Guatemala - 1953-1954: While the world watched

Costa Rica - Mid-1950s: Trying to topple an ally - Part 1

Syria - 1956-1957: Purchasing a new government

Middle East - 1957-1958: The Eisenhower Doctrine claims another backyard for America

Indonesia - 1957-1958: War and pornography

Western Europe - 1950s and 1960s: Fronts within fronts within fronts

British Guiana - 1953-1964: The CIA's international labor mafia

Soviet Union - Late 1940s to 1960s: From spy planes to book publishing

Italy - 1950s to 1970s: Supporting the Cardinal's orphans and techno- fascism

Vietnam - 1950-1973: The Hearts and Minds Circus

Cambodia - 1955-1973: Prince Sihanouk walks the high-wire of neutralism

Laos - 1957-1973: L'Armée Clandestine

Haiti - 1959-1963: The Marines land, again

Guatemala - 1960: One good coup deserves another

France/Algeria - 1960s: L'état, c'est la CIA

Ecuador - 1960-1963: A text book of dirty tricks

The Congo - 1960-1964: The assassination of Patrice Lumumba

Brazil - 1961-1964: Introducing the marvelous new world of death squads

Peru - 1960-1965: Fort Bragg moves to the jungle

Dominican Republic - 1960-1966: Saving democracy from communism by getting rid of democracy

Cuba - 1959 to 1980s: The unforgivable revolution

Indonesia - 1965: Liquidating President Sukarno … and 500,000 others

East Timor - 1975: And 200,000 more

Ghana - 1966: Kwame Nkrumah steps out of line

Uruguay - 1964-1970: Torture—as American as apple pie

Chile - 1964-1973: A hammer and sickle stamped on your child's forehead

Greece - 1964-1974: "Fuck your Parliament and your Constitution," said the President of the United States

Bolivia - 1964-1975: Tracking down Che Guevara in the land of coup d'état

Guatemala - 1962 to 1980s: A less publicized "final solution"

Costa Rica - 1970-1971: Trying to topple an ally—Part 2

Iraq - 1972-1975: Covert action should not be confused with missionary work

Australia - 1973-1975: Another free election bites the dust

Angola - 1975 to 1980s: The Great Powers Poker Game

Zaire - 1975-1978: Mobutu and the CIA, a marriage made in heaven

Jamaica - 1976-1980: Kissinger's ultimatum

Seychelles - 1979-1981: Yet another area of great strategic importance

Grenada - 1979-1984: Lying—one of the few growth industries in Washington

Morocco - 1983: A video nasty

Suriname - 1982-1984: Once again, the Cuban bogeyman

Libya - 1981-1989: Ronald Reagan meets his match

Nicaragua - 1981-1990: Destabilization in slow motion

Panama - 1969-1991: Double-crossing our drug supplier

Bulgaria 1990/Albania 1991: Teaching communists what democracy is all about

Iraq - 1990-1991: Desert holocaust

Afghanistan - 1979-1992: America's Jihad

El Salvador - 1980-1994: Human rights, Washington style

by shadowsweep   2018-03-19

>1 example (YG) does not make a trend. The only other case of blatantly anti-Asian lyrics in a rap song that immediately comes to mind would be Ice Cube's Black Korea.

Ok. That is fair.


>I'd say that it's rather typical (unfortunately) for economically successful minorities to encounter violent prejudice from natives in certain environments. Just look at the history of the Ashkenazi Jews in Europe or even the Chinese in Indonesia.

Bad examples. IIRC Jews were in banking - basically parasites. Chinese in Indonesia were fine until the CIA ignited racial tensions see

Secondly, why don't you see poor Asians attacking successful minorities? I don't buy the argument.


>To provide a more in-depth answer to your question, the Korean shopowner stereotype within my community generally posits that these businesses owners are rapacious, predatory merchants seeking to prey upon misery and suffering of the ghetto. This is a gross distortion of a complex reality, but conspiracy theories are easy to believe when your group is a widely reviled permanent underclass with limited economic power.

Ok, but this myth needs to be countered. I would be happy to help if needed. When people blame Blacks for everything, I try to point out hidden white crimes like drugging the Black community and so they at least see how they are often, not always, victims of systemic racism.


>I'm frankly of the opinion that it's caused by a mixture of institutional racism and legitimate cultural problems resulting from generational poverty.

I agree


>Protesting criminals is virtually impossible because they operate within the domain of the shadow economy and don't particularly care what I think of their behavior.

This type of behavior must be denounced from top to bottom - not just individual cases. Look at Asians. When crimes are committed by some Korean living in America, Koreans in Korea are apologizing. That is a difference in culture. There are rappers who promote violence and thug life. More needs to be done to marginalize that type of influence.

by shadowsweep   2017-12-06

relevant book.

by Licio_Gelli   2017-12-06

Killing Hope by William Blum

by shadowsweep   2017-12-06

so many ways to skin this cat.

thank them for giving us 500 years of imperialism, 2 world wars, dropping two nuclear bombs on civilians, committing genocide across Asia, and killing Blacks at home and abroad.


Africans welcome China's investments while telling Europeans to fuck off.


Some names you can rattle off Vietnam, Iraq, Libya, Cambodia, Laos, Yemen, Syria. I would include more but those require more arguing and there's already a lot of examples without going there. Alternatively, you can point to one book,


CIA, black torture sites, illegal drone assassinations, Monsanto seeds of destruction [


They will always bring up Tibet --> tell them about the CIA Tibet connection or point to First Nations, Australian Aboriginals, Guam, Diego Garcia, Annexation of Hawaii. Point to the Barry Sautman study that debunks. IT was the most unsuccessful "genocide" in human history. The population doubled under Mao. It's a total failure compared to "White man benevolence"


They will always bring up Mao's "genocide". Demand proof of the mass graves. None were ever found. China was never charged with genocide. declassified CIA documents confirm there was no genocide.

by countercom2   2017-08-19

re:First of all, why do you consider American military power to be an extension of white power?

(oops misread) - Because it benefits white people at the expense of non-white lives (and occasionally, white lives also)

re:Our President is Barack Obama. Minorities hold significant positions of power in America's military and power structure, influencing foreign policy.

See the power behind the throne concept. Those people you mention are curated puppets. They are handpicked for their obedience. They have no power. The power is in the multinationals and bankers - the oligarchy.

re:why do you consider American military power as "white man's imperialism" when it isn't the case anymore?

When their white "Christian" soldiers gang rape our women, they enjoy extraterritoriality. The bases in Okinawa were used by white "Christians" to genocide Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, and Korea. If China didn't have nukes, they'd be dead too.

White multinationals plundered their countries and dominated many non-white economies.

Here's an incomplete list of victims of white "Christians".

● Canada ● America ● Mexico ● Australia ● New Zealand ● Hawaii

● Iraq ● Afghanistan ● Syria ● Iran ● Kuwait

● China ● Vietnam ● Korea ● India ● Pakistan (split from India thanks to British Christians) ● Tibet ● Laos ● Cambodia ● Philippines ● Indonesia. ● East Timor

● Cuba ● Peru ● El Salvador ● Panama ● Guatemala ● Nicaragua ● Brazil ● Chile

● Libya ● Somalia ● Sudan ● Congo ● South Africa ● South Yemen ● Haiti ● Ghana

● Yugoslavia ● Ukraine ● Bosnia

BILLIONS - with B - were exterminated by them. India alone lost 1.8 billion over a 100 year period thanks to "Christian" British Raj stealing their food and selling it for "Christian" profits, but these subhumans now want to end world hunger by......poisoning people with gmo. They haven't changed. Only their lies have become more sophisticated.

re:why do so many Asians take American military presence so personally as a racial issue, instead of more as a geopolitical one?

Because race and geopolitics are intertwined. During the "Christian" British opium wars against China, guess who was invited to share in the spoils and drugging these chinks and turning shanghai into a giant whorehouse? mostly other white "Christians". Who's the dynamic duo inflicting genocide in the Middle east? anglo-americans. Who tag teamed Indonesia to wipe out East Timor and steal their resources? usa + australia. who applied the Chinese exclusion acts together? Canda and USA. Who spies with the five eyes system globally? usa, uk, australia, new zealand, and canada. all white anglos.

re: How is this possible when China and North Korea have communist governments opposed to the liberal democracies of its neighbors?

There has never been democracy. Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy

HK was ruled by a racist white "Christian" dictatorship for 98.7% of the 156 year rule. Democracy has "given" at the last moment as a "fuck you" to China.

Do a simple death toll. How many TENS of MILLIONS of other Asians have whites raped, exterminated, mutated, and stolen from vs "totalitarian communist" North Korea and China? (civil wars do not count). Are there even 200,000? Meanwhile, whites literally annihilated tens of millions of people over 10,000 km from their shores. Whites are masters of bullshit. Before, it was "we came to give you "Christian" salvation" and now it's "free trade" and "democracy" and "humanitarian intervention". Yet the result is the same. Genocide and domination.

There isn't a single non-white race on earth that hasn't suffered genocide by white "Christians". They have ZERO legitimacy.

re: I feel like the more realistic scenario is that a power vacuum would allow power-hungry countries to more easily bully their neighbors. What evidence is there that suggests otherwise?

See above. Also, Imperial Japan was trained, armed, and encouraged to brutalize Asia by anglo-americans.

re:People say America is intentional causing "divide-and-conquer" but honestly, how?

Simply put, they spread lies like "totalitarian imperialistic China", they'll use false flags, bribe officials, assassinate them if they don't comply, etc. No tactic is too evil for these whites "Christians". See the pictures at the google link at bottom.

see the following books Killing Hope - U.S. Military and C.I.A. Interventions Since World War II--Updated Through 2003.pdf Overthrow: America's Century of Regime Change from Hawaii to Iraq (9780805082401): Stephen Kinzer: Books

re: China's the one who is communist, and educating its people to hate the Japanese.

You lack historical context and current day knowledge. Japan's right wing government basically insults ww2 victims (likely under white command) and North Korea suffers because USA refuses to allow unification. Whites are the problem.

refer to the books I mentioned above.

re: The reason why the European Union works is because all of Europe is a liberal democracy now.

"Western liberal democracies" are a joke with collapsing economies suckling on Germany's economy. They work together because they figured it's better to fuck non-whites over than each other. See Opium Wars above.

re: Basically, isn't America's presence a stabilizing force in Asia that helps smaller countries stand up for themselves?

refer to my death toll point.

re: Taiwan is clearly an independent country, and should be able to have the right to self-determination.......etc

You talk about sovereignty. Who's going to give sovereignty to all the Native Indians (Canada, America), Hawaiins, Australian aboriginals, New Zealander Maoriori. These sanctimonious "Christian" hypocrites AKA "Western liberal democracies" exterminated tens of millions of people all over the globe yet you're relying on them to "defend freedom". Take a look at the freedomz they provide..this is the latest from these "Christians"....

by AlexKerensky   2017-08-19

"The de facto role of the United States Armed Forces will be to keep the world safe for our economy and open to our cultural assault. To those ends, we will do a fair amount of killing." - Lt. Colonel Ralph Peters

"The weaker and poorer a country is, the more dangerous it is as an example. If it can succeed in bringing about a better life for its people, some other place that has more resources will eventually ask, 'why not us?'" - Chomsky

Pro-capitalists essentially rationalize the crushing of leftist movements by denouncing the things pro-capitalists themselves cause. During the French Revolution - which led to values we now trumpet - all the capitalist/monarchist nations rallied together to crush the revolution. This led to a warlord like Napoleon stepping into power to defend the revolution. Marx called this "Bonapartism"; capitalism's excesses cause an equal and opposite excess. It then justifies its excesses by demonizing what it causes.

by countercom2   2017-08-19

> most erratic regime that regularly threatens to drown its neighbors in seas of nuclear fire

srsly. just stfu